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2,500 Years Of Spirituality For The Self-Obsessed

Posted on Oct 23rd, 2006 by David Jon : A Lamp Unto Oneself David Jon
Is it the once-upon-a-time emphasis on avoding sexuality--as if that were indicative of a greater spiritual truth? Is it the dismissal of the householder as vital, and the glorification of the mystic, the prophet, the saint or sage? Is it the literature--the so-called Sacred Texts--that places in one's mind a notion that with family life comes burden and responsibility, while with a renunciation of all that comes gnosis, freedom, moksha, liberation... enlightenment?

Either way you slice it I am going to go out on a limb here and say that by and large most spiritual circles that I have come across--been exposed to through personal and direct involvement--exhibit a decided disinterest (or at best a feigned interest, but only from a distance) for children. Yes, children. You know it's true. The so-called 'cutting edge' spiritual culture of the West is decidedly anti-child.

And that's a shame really. It is a shame because it can easily undermine the undeniable fruits of spirit that come through ongoing, direct, unmediated involvement with children, as well as making it seem to others (novices, novitiates of the spiritual climate of our times) that children are a burden... and only a burden.

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Siddharthe left his wife and child to seek enlightenment. I contend that we are still, for the most part, caught up in that archetype of spiritual transformation. The model that Siddhartha set is still the predominant archetypal force relative to what I would call the 'spiritual search.' The power of that archetype portrays a distorted vision of realtiy to us, wherein family--and by family I mean, children (and even grandchildren to some degree)--is (mis)perceived as an impediment to spirituality... to enlightenment... to transformation... to moksha. You can't have children and be spiritual. You can't be a Dad and realize enlightenment. You can't be a householder and attain moksha.

Nope, instead you have to be a wanna-be Buddha and renounce your sons and daughters.... or renounce the possibility of having sons and daughters. Go! Leave! Don't be 'held-back' by such duties... such obligations... be single-minded in your pursuit (pun intended!).

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I truly believe that we are immersed in a 'cutting-edge spiritual culture' that is anti-child... that is secretly and not-so-secretly averse to children. It makes me wonder what ever happened to the 'Ye must become as little children to know Heaven' refrain of Jesus.

But maybe that is what has made Christianity such a powerful force (for good and ill, right or wrong). For all of those Judeo-Christian failings that we know so well there is at least an honest acknowledgement of children and their spiritual potential: both a potential for their own enlightement as well as the enlightenment of their parents!

You simply will not find, anywhere, a similar emphasis in present-day 'cutting edge' versions of Western Spiritual Culture. Take Integral Spirituality (an example I use here at Zaadz if only because Ken Wilber's books are listed as the most widely read among the Zaadz community). Now, what do you see about children in the midst of the Integral Spirituality put forth by Ken Wilber? What you see is only talk of children in the abstract--as so many generalized nexi of developmental progress and/or arrest. You certainly don't get the impression that children and family life (and by family life I mean all of the non-traditional types of family that might exist or be created here in these post-conventional times of ours) are exalted as spiritual catalysts. In fact, I don't know as if I have ever seen such mentioned in any Integral offering put out by all of the various branches of the 'Integral Mulitiplex' as Wilber is now calling it.

To the contrary, what you get a sense of is just how averse to children and parenting is the Integral Scene. For the most part, the decided emphasis on one's own enlightenment (even if that enlightenment is couched in rhetoric of 'for the sake of all other beings) is primary to the point where all other relationships are either denied--or made to conform--to one's overriding Integral Push for some, as yet unaccessed, 3rd tier state of consciousness.

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Like I mentioned above, that is all a shame. It saddens me. It saddens me after becoming a Father in the past year. Now I know. I know because I feel people's aversion to me being a Parent. It is like I am infectious. Those former Integral Comrades are now leery of catching the dis-ease. But what they don't know is that it is not a dis-ease. Having a child and becoming a Parent is only a dis-ease according to that distorted and dubious view of reality that is owed to Siddhartha and his long-line of ffamily averse followers who have made it seem for thousands of years that to be a Mom or a Dad is to be 'less-spiritually evolved.'

But we Parents... we true Mothers and Fathers who midwife the spiritual potential of children know better don't we? We know something that Ken Wilber doesn't. We have direct, unmediated access to a level of experience that Saints, Sages, Mystics, Mullahs, and Maharishis have no clue as to the nature of. And it is Sublime beyond all measure. And it is time that Parents stand up and start calling the Mystical Denial of the Child for the Sake of Pursuing Moksha the cruel joke that it is. It is time for Parents to proclaim the Truth that eluded the Buddha.... because the Buddha walked away from it 2,500 years ago. In doing so, making it seem to millions of others that it is necessary to denounce and deny the Child-Parent Matrix for the sake of this Ghost we call Enlightenment.

 
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ebuddha : Non-Dual tech trainer
about 7 hours later
ebuddha said

Hey there,

Due to my own laziness/busyness, haven't said hello for awhile - nice 2 see u blogging, now that I spending more time at Zaadz, and seeing the features.

Funny enough, as an always-roommate, I've had many roommates that had children.  So I've always enjoyed kids, myself.  In some ways, more than adults!  (it helps that I get to be the guy that throws kids around, and doesn't do the discipline thing.)

But yeah, the Child-Parent matrix, is much more rich than say, the Wilber-Combs Matrix.  That's for sure!

about 12 hours later
Victoria said

Wow, how true! That all important goal of ascendence precludes getting one’s hands dirty with such mundane things as, well, life. ;-) I don’t for a second believe that everyone should breed, or even that everyone should long to breed. The world is crowded enough, and children really should be brought up in a world where they are desired and loved. Whether or not they were intended, they grow up healthier feeling they are chosen.

Not wanting to take on the responsibility is fine, but I am concerned when I encounter those, who seem to despise children. It’s a giant red flag waving violently to signal some serious issues in one’s shadow. No one particularly enjoys a screaming child at the next table in a restaurant. To dismiss the whole lot as something to be avoided at all costs, however, reeks of issues not brought to one’s surface. Frankly, it’s a projection of one’s own self-loathing, masked in the arrogance that, if a child were in the picture, one might not be the center of the universe.

According to Leonard Shlain in his book The Alphabet vs. the Goddess (a brilliant book and discussed on Integral Naked), all known biographical material concerning the Buddha indicates that his mother died in childbirth. Shlain attributes the disparity in a religion that on the one hand promotes compassion, yet on the other considers existence to be the cause of suffering to be the projections of one, who likely had all the typical psychological trauma of someone who grieved the mother he never knew and probably felt guilt for his own existence.

When I heard Ken Wilber speak back in 2004, right in the midst of an incredible space, held and nurtured by many brilliant minds and hearts, Ken got going on the pre/trans fallacy, a concept with which I agree. What alarmed me was his outright open hostility as he declared the incorrectness of people, who believe newborns are somehow closer to the divine when they are “just a mouth that eats, and that’s God, and that’s IT!!!” I was on the front row. It was hard to miss the vehemence and the popping veins. I wasn’t the only parent there, who was surprised and offended.

No one has to become a parent to learn real compassion and experience deep connections. (Sadly, there are many parents, who never come close to that level of understanding.) When I was a new mom to a preemie, surrounded by people, including other new parents, who just didn’t understand what I was going thru, the one person to whom I could relate was a friend, who’d given long term care to his partner with HIV.

Still, the immense and humbling power of the Child-Parent matrix (great term btw) is something that can only be experienced first hand, and to deny its importance is to deny life itself!

Thanks for writing this entry, David Jon!
V

David Jon : A Lamp Unto Oneself
about 23 hours later
David Jon said

Hi E-Buddha,

Thanks for dropping by, and posting a comment. And if you ever get the time you can come around and toss Uriah around a bit, too!   ; o )


Nice to see you too Victoria, and what awesome comments! Glad you didn't hold back too much!


Like yourself I am not saying everyone ought to have children. I am saying there is a noticable tone of an 'anti-child' nature that I have been wanting to comment on for some time now in select spiritual circles. To me, it is as if certain people have the sense that children will prevent them from 'realizing enlightenment.' It smacks of an hubris and arrogance to me–as if all Parents are by nature un-enlightened and unevolved. And while that may be true of myself I don't think it is true of parents like you, among others I know.


Genuinely,

David Jon

T : Eyes in the Pine
1 day later
T said

Couldn't agree more that the Indian spiritual traditions are tilted vertical, rocket-like and how many kids get to go on the Rocket when you have to be this spiritually high to get on the Ride?

The medium is the message, and the shadow, to me, of the Integral Movement is it's inability to let of of the Form, the Heroic Forward Thrust featuring Heroes and Bold Statements here on the brilliant Cutting Edge.

Integral is as Integral does, and everybody knows the map is not the territory, but putting it down to pick up a kid is tough when you're so………….obsessed with Abstractions.

Balance overall I hope, but there's always room for Specialists and Transcenders as well as Household  Yogis.  Beware shadow chauvanism- parents can become so attached and narcissistic as well to their thing.  Not saying you're doing that Jon, and yes, your kid is a genius.  Maybe he or she is, but you sir, speak your mind with clarity and passion both and I'm sure the kid is a lucky one.

There's plenty of shit on all sides and it's a very big Field, so let's get planting!

David Jon : A Lamp Unto Oneself
2 days later
David Jon said

Excellent T,


I understand parents can get carried away by their devotion to children—in fact it is quite easy for me to fall into that!  ; o )


I also concur on the point about the need for Specialists and Transcenders to hold doors open for those less-inclined to entertain such notions–regardless of parenting issues or not. My Heart, though, is informing me as to the problematic relationship that arises between the so-called 'cutting edge' spiritual forms of our day (Integral being one) and the majourity of people who are never going to be blessed or touched by anything Integral or 'cutting-edge' if those with their heads in the clouds can't also keep their feet on the ground.


I just want to know best how to speak to people 'where they are at'… and not where some 'abstraction' makes it wish we were all at.


For the record, the majourity of humans will sire offspring at one point or another (in one form or another… adoption, foster-care, necessity). So do we speak above and around the majourity…. or to them?


Genuinely,

David Jon

dreamlion : alchemist
2 months later
dreamlion said

Mother Earth News
Issue # 1 - January/February 1970

Gary Snyder– FOUR CHANGES

I. POPULATION

The Condition

Position: Man is but a part of the fabric of life - dependent of course on the whole fabric for his very existence, and also responsible to it. As the most highly developed tool-using animal, he must recognize that the evolutionary destinies (unknown) of other life forms are to be respected, and act as gentle steward of the earth’s community of being.

Situation: There are now too many human beings; and the problem is growing rapidly worse. It is potentially disastrous not only for the human race but for most other life forms.

Goal: The goal would be half of the present world population or less.

Action

Social/political: Legalize abortion; encourage vasectomy and sterilization (provided free by clinics), remove income tax deductions for more than two children above a specified income level, and scale it so that lower income families are forced to be careful too. Take a vigorous stand against the Catholic church and any other institutions that exercise an irresponsible political force in regard to this question; work ceaselessly to make all political problems be seen and solved in the light of this prime problem.

The community: Explore other social structures and marriage forms, such as group marriage and polyandrous marriage which provide family life but which produce less children. Share the pleasure of raising children widely, so that all need not directly reproduce to enter into this basic human experience. Let no two persons produce more than two children. Adopt children. Let reverence for life and for the feminine mean also a reverence for other species, most of which are threatened.

Our own heads: “I am a child of all life, and all living beings are my brothers and sisters, my children and grandchildren, & there is a child within me waiting to be brought to birth, the baby of a new and wiser self.” Love, love-making, a male and female together, seen as the vehicle of mutual realization, where the creation of new selves and new worlds of beings is as important as making babies.

II. POLLUTION

The Condition

Position: Pollution is an excess production of substances which cannot be absorbed or transmuted rapidly enough to offset their introduction, thus causing changes the cycle is not prepared for. All organisms have wastes and by-products, and these are indeed part of the total ecosystem; energy is passedalong the line and refracted in various ways, “the rainbow body.” This is cycling, not pollution.

Situation: The human race in the last century has allowed its production and dissemination of wastes, by-products and various chemical substances to become excessive. Pollution is directly harming the ecosystem. It is also ruining the environment in very direct ways for humanity itself.

Goal: Clean air, clean clear-running rivers, the Presence of Pelicans and Ospreys in our lives, unrnuddied language and good dreams.

Action

Social/political: Waste and by-product quantity must be reduced. Strong legislation controlling DDT and related pesticides with no fooling around. Direct exposure of the collusion of certain scientists, the pesticide industry, and agri-business in trying to block this legislation. Strong penalties for air and water pollution by industry. “Pollution is somebody’s profit.” Phase out petroleum fuels, explore all possible energy sources of a non-polluting nature: solar power. Tell the truth regarding atomic waste disposal and the threat it represents. Stop all germ and chemical warfare research and experimentation. Laws and sanctions encouraging the use of bio-degradable substances; and sanctions against wasteful use of paper, etc. which adds to the solid waste of cities. Determine methods of re-cycling solid urban waste; and re-cycling as a basic principle should inform all waste disposal thinking.

The community: DDT and such: don’t use them. Air pollution: use less cars. Cars pollute the air, and one or two people riding lonely in a huge car is an insult to intelligince and the Muse. Share rides, pick up hitchhikers, legalize hitch-hiking and build hitch-hiker waiting stations along the highways. Also - as a step toward the new world - walk more: look for the best routes through beautiful countryside for long-distance walking trips: San Francisco to Los Angeles down the Coast Range, for one. Learn how to use your own manure as fertilizer if you’re in the country as the far East has done for centuries. There’s a way, and it’s safe. †

Solid waste: boycott wasteful Sunday papers which use up trees, and add vastly to the solid waste of the city. Refuse paper bags at the store. Organize park and street cleanup festivals. Don’t waste- (a monk and an old master were once walking in the mountains. They noticed a little hut upstream. The monk said, “A wise hermit must live there - “The master said, “That’s no wise hermit, you see that lettuce leaf floating down the stream, he’s a Waster.” Just then an old man came running down the hill with his beard flying and caught the floating lettuce leaf.)

Our own heads: Part of the trouble with talking about DDT is that the use of it is not just a practical device, it’s almost an establishment religion. There is something in western culture that wants to totally wipe out creepy-crawlies and feels repugnance for toadstools and snakes. This is fear of one’s own deepest natural inner-self wilderness areas, and the answer is, relax. Relax around bugs, snakes arid your own hairy dreams. Again farmers can and should share their crop with a certain percentage of buglife as “paying their dues” - Thoreau says “How then can the harvest fail? Shall I not rejoice also at the abundance of the weeds whose seeds are the granary of the birds? It matters little comparatively whether the fields fill the farmer’s barns. The true husbandman will cease from anxiety as the squirrels manifest no concern whether the woods will bear chestnuts this year or not, and finish his labor with every day, relinquish all claim to the produce of his fields, and sacrificing in his mind not only his first but his last fruits also.” In the realm of thought, inner experience, consciousness, as in the outward realm of interconnection, there is a difference between a balanced cycle, and the excess which cannot be handled. When the balance is right, the mind recycles from highest illumination to the stillness of dreamless sleep; the alchemical “transmutation.”

III. CONSUMPTION

The Condition

Position: Consumption is also a matter of balances and the problems that arise with excess. “The Wanton Boy that kills a fly shall feel the Spider’s enmity.”

Situation: Man’s use of dozens of “resources” and his total dependence on certain of them (like dependence on fossil fuels) exhausts certain presences in the biosphere with incalculable results on the other members of the network: while rendering mankind vulnerable to the consequences of the loss of major supplies. In fragile areas animals and birds have all but been extincted in pursuit of furs or feathers or fertilizer or oil: the soil is “used up” and all of this to feed outrageous excesses like war, or a phoney consumption-oriented economy.

Goal: Balance, harmony, humility, the true affluence of being a good member of the community of living creatures.

Action

Social/political: Seek out new self-renewable energy sources. And: it must be taught ceaselessly til it sticks that a continually “growing economy” is no longer healthy, but a Cancer. Restructure business corporations so that they can function without presenting a contunually growing profit; stress responsible, controlled production. Soil banks, open space, phase out logging on federal land. Protection for all predators and varmints. Absolutely no further development of roads and concessions in National Parks and Wilderness areas; build auto campgrounds in the least desirable areas. Develop consumer-boycott and consumer research power in the areas of irresponsible and dishonest products. Thus: expose the myths of capitalism and the cold war. & Communist myths of growth and production by the by.

The community: Sharing and conserving; boycotting the wasteful. The inherent aptness of communal life, where large tools are owned jointly, and personal objects are private. If enough people refused to buy a new car for one year, it would permanently alter the American economy. Re-cycling clothes and equipment. (Goodwill and Salvation Army are useful: they should perhaps be confronted and straightened out on their pricing and wage policies.) Support local handicrafts in shoes and clothes. Learn to break the habit of too many unnecessary possessions - a monkey on everybody’s back - but avoid a self-abnegating anti-joyous self righteousness. Simplicity is light, carefree, neat, and loving-not a self-punishing ascetic trip. (The greatest Chinese poet, Tu Fu, said, “The ideas of a poet should be noble and simple.”)

Don’t shoot a deer if you don’t know how to use all the meat and preserve that which you can’t eat; to tan the hide and use the leather - to use it all, with gratitude, right down to the sinew and hooves. Simplicity and mindfulness in diet is perhaps the starting point for most people.

Our own heads: It is hard to even begin to gauge how much a complication of possessions, the habits of “ownership” and “use” stand between us and a true, clear, liberated way of seeing the world. To live lightly on the earth, to be aware and alive, to be free of egotism, starts with concrete acts, but the inner principle is the insight that we are interdependent energy fields of great potential wisdom and compassion - expressed in each person as a superb mind, a beautiful and complex body, and the almost magical capacity of language. To these potentials and capacities, “owning things” can add nothing of authenticity. “Clad in the sky with the earth for a pillow.”

IV. TRANSFORMATION

The Condition

Position: The unbalance in man’s relation to nature & his selves is partly an inherent existential question with biological and ultimate roots - birth, suffering, old age and death; and partly a cultural problem. In approaching questions of Being and Emptiness we have the wisdom traditions and some emerging sciences to help us. In transforming culture, we must augment the philosophical perceptions with a deep study of history and anthropology.

Situation: Our civilized - and probably most other - societies of the last three millenia have functioned well enough up to this point. But they no longer have survival value. They are now anti-survival.

Goal: Nothing short of total transformation will work. What we envision is a planet on which the human population lives harmoniously and dynamically by employing a sophisticated and unobtrusive technology in a world environment which is “left natural.” Specific points in this vision:

A healthy and spacious population of all races, much less in number than today.

Cultural and individual pluralism, unified by a type of world tribal council. Division by natural and cultural areas rather than arbitrary political boundaries.

A Technology of communication and quiet transportation: land use being sensitive to the properties of each region. Allowing, thus, the bison to return to much of the high plains. Careful but intensive agriculture in the great alluvial valleys. Computer technicians who run the plant part of the year and walk along with the Elk in their migration during the rest

A basic cultural outlook and social organization that inhibits power and property-seeking while encouraging exploration and challenge in things like healing songs, flute-playing, meditation, mathmatics, mountaineering, and all the other possible ways of authentic being-in-the-world. Women totally free and equal. A new kind of family - responsible, but more festive and relaxed - is implicit.

Action

Social/political: It seems evident that there are throughout the world certain social and religious forces that have worked throughout history toward an ecologically/culturally enlightened state of affairs. Let these be encouraged: Alchemists, hip Marxists, Anarchists, Third Worlds, Teilhard and cryptoGnostic Catholics, Druids, Witches, Taoists, Biologists, Yogins, Quakers, Tibetans, Zens, Shamans, Sufis, Amish and Mennonite, American Indians, Polynesians - all primitive cultures, all communal and ashram movements of all persuasions, &c. The list is long. Since it doesn’t seem practical or even desirable th think that direct bloody force will achieve anything, it would be best to consider this a continuing “revolution of consciousness” which will be won not by guns but by siezing the key images, myths, archetypes, eschatologies, and ecstasies so that life won’t seem worth living unless one’s on the transforming energy’s side.

Our community: Without falling into a facile McLuhanism, we can hope to use the media. New schools, new classes, - walking in the woods and cleaning up the streets. Let no one be ignorant of the facts of biology and related disciplines; bring up our children with natural things and a taste of the wild. Let some groups establish themselves in backwater rural areas and flourish, let others maintain themselves in the urban centers, and let them work together, a two-way flow of experience, people, money and home-grown vegetables. Investigating new lifestyles is our work - as is the exploration of Ways to change one’s innerworld - with the known dangers of crashing that go with such. We should work where it helps with political people, hoping to enlarge their vision. And with people of all varieties of politics or ideologies at whatever point they become aware of environmental urgencies. Master the archaic and the primitive, as models of basic nature-related cultural styles, as well as the most imaginative future possibilities of science and technology, and build a community where these two vectors cross.

Our own heads: Is where it starts. Knowing that we are the first human beings in history to have all of man’s culture and previous experience available to our study, and being free enough of the weight of traditional cultures to seek out a larger identity. - The first members of a civilized society since the early Neolithic to wish to look clearly into the eyes of the wild and see our selfhood, our family, there. We have these advantages to set off the obvious disadvantages of being as screwed up as we are - which gives us a fair chance to penetrate into some of the riddles of ourselves & the universe, and to go beyond the idea of “man’s survival” or “the survival of the biosphere” and to draw our strength from the realization that at the heart of things is some kind of serene and ecstatic process which is actually beyond qualities and beyond birth-and-death. “No need to survive!” “In the fires that destroy the universe at the end of the kalpa, what survives?” - ‘The iron tree blooms in the void!”

Knowing that nothing need be done, is where we begin to move from.

13. VIII. 40069

from
WHOLE EARTH CATALOG SUPPLEMENT
September, 1969
† Usually aging in concrete vats or cisterns sunk in the earth adjoining the field is the only processing. After @ 2 months the material is a consistent fluid which can be ladled or pumped into the soil between rows of plants. Problems of worms and disease in Japan are negligible.

http://www.motherearthnews.com/nature_and_environment/1970_January_February/Four_Changes

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